Subject: THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL (or is it?} Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:52:16 GMT Andrew:

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Subject: THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL (or is it?}
From: edconrad@prolog.net (Ed Conrad)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:52:16 GMT


Andrew:

On Friday, May 24, 1996, you answered my E-mail  in which I requested
-- since your first "test" results were published and your erroneous
conclusions announced -- that you return "all portions of the specimen
I had sent you (although you may keep a portion, if you so desire)."

You responded by informing me:
"I planned to do so soon, but I would like to keep one of the  
segments I cut, in case I eventually do wish to prepare a thin
section. This would leave one other segment and the remainder of the
specimen, which together represent over 3/4 of the specimen.  Would
that be okay?  I will also be including a thin section of the dinosaur
bone I used for comparison."

On Wednesday, May 29, 1996,  you E-mailed me the following (while
resending part of the message I had sent you):

            (Ed Conrad):  "Certainly, I am perfectly agreeable that
you keep a portion of the specimen that I had sent you. I wouldn't
want it any other way.
           "As you've mentioned, it would enable you to have a portion
available in the event that you wanted to prepare a thin section for
microscopic examination and evaluation."

          (Andrew MacRae): "Good, I will package up the rest of the
specimen. 

         (Ed Conrad:) "Meanwhile, I appreciate the fact that you have
sent -- or will be sending -- a thin section of the dinosaur bone
which you had used for comparative purposes in your testing and
analyses. Is it possible that I might have a very tiny piece of the
dinosaur specimen as well?"

        (Andrew MacRae): "I would say yes, except I already promised
to send a specimen of the bone to Ted.  I figured I would send the
thin section to you, and the specimen to Ted, that way you would both
get a dinosaur bone specimen in some form.  And there is the potential
that the two of you could get the two specimens (thin section and hand
specimen) back together relatively easily."
                                                     --O---
Andrew, I realize the usage of  the U.S. Postal Service is
sarcastically referred to as snail mail but  WHERE? OH! WHERE? are the
remaining portions of the specimens you PROMISED you'd be returning?
Today is June 19 and they STILL haven't arrived.
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Are you sure you sent them?
If not, are you going to send them?

After all, aren't you going to give me an opportunity to have a thin
section prepared -- to reveal (and publish microscopic photographs of)
the majestic, magnificent Haversian systems which you, for some
strange reason, have been unable to find and photograph.

They're there, Andrew! The only problem, neither you nor your
microscopic cameras can see them. Maybe it's just because you don't
want to see them. Maybe it's because, due to all of your extraneous
meanderings, you made a simple task especially difficult for yourself.

To resurrect a few words from another cliche, perhaps you have been
unable to locate and photograph the Haversian systems in my specimen
because you had put too much emphasis on seeing the forest, therefore
failed to see the trees.

Whatever the reason, Andrew, it is imperative that I now be placed in
a position in which I can have a thin section prepared from the
specimen I sent you. I need it to prove to you and the nasty Doubting
Thomases out there that I am neither a kook nor a crackpot.

You really have nothing to lose. You seem to be absolutely certain the
specimen I sent you is NOT petrified bone and you apparently had used
the most sophisticated scientific instrumentation before arriving at
that conclusion.

It is time for me to prove that, as right as you think you are, you
are wrong -- totally and absolutely incorrect!

By doing what you have done -- attempting to make me out as some sort
of nincompoop _ you have injured MY reputation. Now I demand that the
unused portions of my specimen be returned.
I am holding you to your promise.

There is no reason for anymore undue delays. This material should be
in the mail TODAY and arrive in Shenandoah, Pa., by Saturday -- for
sure.
 If it doesn't arrive, there will be a public daily countdown here and
in other Newsgroups updating the number of days that have passed
since the material failed to arrive.

It will sort of remind us of the time we were counting the number of
days that  the American hostages were being held captive in Iran.

                                                          -- Ed Conrad
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PS: As for your latest microscopic photos of the thin section prepared
from the specimen I had sent you, I am completely mystified why  they
show NO CELL STRUCTURE at all.
Why, even Douglas Cox admitted seeing a peculiar cell structure when
examining flakes that he had scraped from a STONE he had picked up
outside my home  the day of his visit to Shenandoah, Pa..
Isn't it a fact, Andrew, that cell structure exists in just about
everything, even stones and rocks and concretions? But NONE is visible
in your microscopic photos of my specimen.
Could it be, Andrew, that the thin section you prepared is not thin
enough to permit light to pass through?
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