(435) Wed 25 Dec 96 20:32 By: Gwenny the Pooh To: Jim Staal Re: Oops, Caught Again Heilsa,

(435)   Wed 25 Dec 96 20:32
By: Gwenny the Pooh
To: Jim Staal
Re: Oops, Caught Again

Heilsa, Jim!

Remember how you were recently saying that Wild is a wife abuser?  Remember how
you claimed I had never told you that Wild was my SECOND husband and that the
abuser was my first??  Well, guess what I found while browsing through my old
files??  A series of posts from you explaining why Gwenny abuse was okay.  Just
for chuckles I am reposting an "edited for brevity" copy of it.

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Msg  : #5396 [5613] From : Preston Simpson                     1:123/318
Wed 20 Sep 95 23:48 To   : Dr. James Staal
Fri 22 Sep 95 17:33 Subj : Raise the Standard...
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 DJS> I tend to disagree. There is such a thing a 'respect' or a Aretha
 DJS> put R-E-S-P-E-C-T. Disrespect can and should invovle punishment to
 DJS> correct the situation. If Gwenny or anyone for that matter, had said
 DJS> the things to the Lance-man (Judge Ito) that she provoked her little
 DJS> man husband with, I'm sure the punishment would be a little more
 DJS> than merely bieng slapped about a bit.

 DJS> any air moving? Didn't think so). Words can hurt worse than being
 DJS> struck. The pain of being struck dissapates quite rapidly, whereas
 DJS> the pain caused by words can last forever. Consider what the Bible
 DJS> has to say on the subject:


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Msg  : #5405 [5614] From : Jason Harmon                        1:3652/9
Tue 19 Sep 95 18:49 To   : Jimmy
Fri 22 Sep 95 17:33 Subj : Re: THE DOUBLE STANDARD
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DJS> My point was that if her smart A** mouth aggravated him as much as it
DJS> did me, my revenge was extracted in advance.

JH> Let it be known that the above 
JH> states that wife beating is OK if the wife has a "smart A**
JH> mouth."

Ji> No, I believe the doctor was saying very clearly that 'Gwenny
Ji> beating' is OK if the Gwenny (and she does) have a 'smart A** mouth.
Ji> Nothing to do with wives in general. Gwenny in particular.


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Msg  : #6756 [7191] From : AL SCHROEDER                        1:116/3000
Sun 24 Sep 95 15:55 To   : DR. JAMES N. STAAL
Tue 26 Sep 95 06:03 Subj : THE DOUBLE STANDARD
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 Ji> No, I believe the doctor was saying very clearly that 'Gwenny
 Ji> beating' is OK if the Gwenny (and she does) have a 'smart A** mouth.
 Ji> Nothing to do with wives in general. Gwenny in particular.

 AS> Jimmy, I HOPE I am misreading this. It almost looks as if you are
 AS> saying that wife-beating is condoned if a particular wife is a
 AS> smartmouth.

 DJNS> No, it looked as though I _was_ saying that Gwenny beating was
 DJNS> condoned. And yes, you would be correct in saying that.

 AS>  Unless perhaps you are another female. There are no
 AS> circumstances where wife beating can be condoned. It is the mark
 AS> of a bully and a coward, one who hits his wife in the privacy of his
 AS> own house because he has terrorized her enough where she cannot hit
 AS> back, and needs a punching bag.

 DJNS> The person you describe here is a moron...like Gwenny's >> first
 DJNS> husband. <<

 AS> Gwenny is a delightful person, and has suffered much in her life,
 AS> and the merest suggestion that she (or for that matter, any woman)
 AS> can do something to deserve a beating raises my ire.



 DJNS> Sorry. We disagree.

 DJNS> Not really...it started when Gwenny abused me verbally and then
 DJNS> told me how her >>first husband<< (4'5", 98lbs, with only one arm)
 DJNS> use kick thre crap outta her and I said she had it coming.

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In two locations we see you use the phrase "first husband".  So much for your
assertion that I never told you.  Plus we get to re-live one of your finer
fundy fuck-ups.

BTW, David is 5'10" and weighed 135 pounds when I was married to him.

Merry Christmas.

                   My skin, my bones, my heretic heart are my authority,
                                                            Gwenny


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