It's 26/Oct/95 at 7:00 p.m. on KFI AM 640 Los Angeles and tonight on the +quot;John and Ke

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It's 26/Oct/95 at 7:00 p.m. on KFI AM 640 Los Angeles and tonight
on the "John and Ken" show there is none other than charasmatic cult
leader Jeff White of the domestic terrorist group "Operation Rescue"
calling in from a telephone in his prison.

Today we learn that a doctor successfully sued a Christanic terrorist
group for their evil acts to the tune of eight and a half million
dollars.  We also are told about a class action suit against Christanic
terrorist groups filed by a collection of abortion and family planning
businesses which have been the victims of the terrorist groups the
class action suit seeks to punish -- this one to the tune of a mere
200 million dollars.

What can be said about the criminal cultist's exposure on KFI that
can't be too easilly guessed?  Quite simply, he was a ranting loon who
constantly ended up having to fight back out-and-out crying.  It was
easy to tell that the lunatic was working hard to maintain civility
to try to appear rational yet, as is typical of anti-abortionists, he
just couldn't.  He stepped around questions asked of him by callers and
tried to change the subject repeatedly.  (All the callers except one
was quite fed-up with the likes of White...  the one exception was a
woman who was one of White's fellow terrorists; she stated that she knew
White personally and often went to his house.  One caller disemboweled
White so coldly, rationally, and so pat that after she had hung up, he
accused her of being a "plant" working for a business called "Planned
Parrenthood."  More on the results of that accusation later.)

Fortunately, John Cobel, the more outspoken talk show host of the two
tonight wouldn't allow White to ignore embarrassing questions and
demanded that he address the callers concerns.  Eventually Cobel gave
up trying to get an honest answer out of the terrorist leader and
launched into an angry summation of why honest people are so fed up
with terrorists like him (White.)  He yelled at White at least a dozen
times that he's fed up with him (White) and anti-abortionists like him
and all the lies he (White) and his followers spout to try to defend
what they do.

                        Cobel was magnificent!

Cobel then stated that he wished all the anti-abortion terrorists and
all the pro-abortion defenders would just kill each other off and put
an end to the whole thing as, "I'm just fed up with it all."

When Cobel finally got the terrorist leader to admit that his cult is
responsible and engages in terrorist activities, Cobel loudly stated
that it is extremists like you (White) who turn off everyone thus making
themselves their own worse problem.  Both John and Ken took the cultist
to task for his paranoid accusations that everyone who calls-in to
oppose his cult's Nazi tactics is working for Planned Parrenthood.  His
defense was to the effect that they must be!  It almost appeared as if
the cultist actually believed that the majority of Americans accept his
group's terrorist activities as acceptable and that anyone who would
demand the rights of a woman to be doing so simply to keep their jobs
only pretending to be fighting for a woman's Constitutional rights.

Sadly, the cultist was allowed to repeatedly mistakenly state that
abortion is performed on children and he was allowed to repeatedly state
that abortion is murder.  Neither John nor Ken were well informed enough
to point out those obvious lies.  Fortunately, one last caller was
brought in during the last few minutes who discussed the cult's violent
and inflamatory rhetoric, eventually pointing out that "murder" is very
strongly defined, including the illegal taking of a human life.  The
caller pointed out that abortion isn't murder contrary to the lies the
anti-abortion cults spread.  No mention was made about the vastly large
percentage of abortions which occur spontaneously nor was any mention
made to the fact that removing a blot of undifferenciated, fissioning
cells within a women is hardly murdering a child.

At one point Cobel pointed out that the anti-abortion cultists should
return to holding peaceful protests and to leave innocent people alone.
The terrorist leader nearly broke into tears as he complained that no
one is interested in his cult's religious beliefs and that violence is
therefore acceptable.  He launched into a disjointed occult rant about
these invisible deities of his, murder, pickets, and any number of odd,
uninteligible brain farts to try to defend what he wanted to demand was
a "civil disobedience..."  something everyone else calls "terrorism."

All in all, it was the best "interview" of the Christanic terrorist
group's ring leader that has yet been offered over either radio or
television.  There was no attempt to play at being polite to the creep
and no attempt to try to pretend that White's cult's "side" of the
issue was at all acceptable in a civilized country.  He was symbolically
brought to the microphone in handcuffs and chains, treated like the
filthy Nazi criminal he himself wants to be, then returned to his cell.
It was great to listen to the callers dispassionately and logically
tear the poor dear several new assholes.

I can imagine how many people like yours truely were trying to get
past the switchboard call screener.  I had hoped to ask White if he
enjoyed playing the wife to Bruno, the 310 pound black liquor store
robber he (hopefully) shares a bunk with.  Though all callers but one
expressed their agreement that the law suits against the terrorist
groups was "A Very Good Thing," I was disappointed that no one was
allowed to rub the fuck's nose in the fact that he's stuck in prison
for being a criminal while (the mostly) civilized society on the outside
were stateing their relief that he's been locked up.  I also wanted to
ask when his cult would pay off on the millions of dollars they already
owe to both legal athorities as well as private individuals due to
all the court cases they've lost.  It would have been great to get an
admission that his cult has no intention of obeying the judges who
imposed the fines but, alas, none of the callers who managed to get
through thought to bring it up.

Another good aspect of the interview was a caller who stated that no
one wants to have an abortion.  It's a tough decision, the caller said,
but remains the decision of the mother, not the decision of some wide-
eyed religious zealot.  White tried to focus on the "tough decision"
and rhetorically demanded to know what makes it so hard.  He tried to
claim that "even abortionists know that it's killing a child."  Sadly
the caller didn't have time to point out that it's only difficult due to
the ignorance and superstion associated with abortion.  When abortions
are accomplished by taking an oral medication eventually, terrorists
will not be capable of terrorizing innocent people to the point where
they feel the decision is difficult.  In fact, the whole non-issue will
once again disappear and Christanic death cultists will probably renew
their violence upon homosexuals.

KFI is a great radio station.  Sadly the talk show hosts aren't up on
all the aspects of the issues and this interview was one of the ones
which could have been better with some additional homework.  On a
previous morning show, for instance, the totally debunked Creationist
David Fasold was on for half an hour and it would have been nice had
Bill Handle, the morning talk show host, researched Fasold and uncovered
his Velikovsky-like beliefs.


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