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Chris/ Fredric: Just saw the 26 June post, and thought I'd forward some info on the subject... David Buckna >Re: Yes, Creationism IS a child >molestation, we know... > > > >From colby@bio.bu.edu (Chris Colby) >Organization Boston University >Date 26 Jun 1996 16:20:58 GMT >Newsgroups talk.origins,sci.skeptic,talk.atheism >Message-ID <4qro1a$634@news.bu.edu> >References 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 > > > >I've set followups to talk.origins. > >Fredric L. Rice (frice@stbbs.com) wrote: > >: Well, someone asked about any geologist who might hold a degree and >: I was able to come up with one after _must_ research through the >: extensive archives here. A chairman of the geology branch of the >: Institute for Creation Research (sic) by the name, as I recall, of >: Steven Austin (not to be confused with the "Steve Austin" who was the >: Six Million Dollar Man.) }:-} > >There's also Kurt Wise, a paleontologist. His advisor was S. J. Gould. >He's a creationist of some sort. 1989: The Estimation of True Taxonomic Durations from Fossil Occurrence Data, Ph.D. dissertation, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA, 550 pp. Wise, Kurt P. Wise teaches at Bryan College in Dayton, TN. Some articles by Wise that I'm aware of (non-creationist publications): 1981: co-authored with Thomas J. M. Schopf: Was marine faunal diversity in the Pleistocene affected by changes in sea level?, Paleobiology, 7(3):394-399. 1991: The use of fossil occurrence data to distinguish between instantaneous and stepwise extinction [abstract], Geol. Soc. Am. Abstr. w/ Progr., 1991:A184. 1991: "The fossil record: The ultimate test-case for young-earth creationism", Opus: A Journal for Interdisciplinary Studies, 1991-92:17-29. 1995: with Steven A. Austin, "Nautiloid mass-kill event at a hydrothermal mound within the Rewall Limestone (Mississippian), Grand Canyon, Arizona" [abstract], Geol. Soc. Am. Abstr. w/Progr., 27(6):A369. >: Finding a degreed Creationist with a hard-science background in the >: areas of their pontifications is damn near a futile exercise. I guess you've never heard of paleontologist Sigrid Hartwig-Scherer, or her husband, microbiologist Siegfried Scherer (Germany). Both are creationists. For example, Hartwig-Scherer and Robert Martin completed an analysis of Homo habilis specimen OH 62 and found that it is even more apelike than AL288-1 (Lucy) (see Journal of Human Evolution 21:439-449, 1991) They report: "Computerized tomography scanning revealed that the cortex of the arm bones of OH 62 is amazingly thick and more robust than that of many chimpanzees." >Duane Gish has a PhD in biochemistry. I can't remeber if Michael >Denton has a real degree (as opposed to the usual diploma-mill >degrees most creationists sport). Denton is a Senior Research Fellow at the University of Otago in New Zealand, (Dept. of Biochemistry) and author of "Evolution: A Theory in Crisis". Are you saying that Denton's a creationist? Actually, he's kind of an enigma. I've often wondered if he is: agnostic or atheist?; evolutionist, anti-evolutionist, or small "c" creationist? Who knows? No doubt his new book, which is scheduled to come out later this year, will give added insight into his current position. A while back he commented: >So, there's a handful of creationists who have actually earned a >science degree before completely renouncing the goals and ideals >of science. ...a "handful" of creationists with science degrees? According to Russell Humphreys (Sandia National Laboratories) in the US alone there's around 10,000 practicing scientists who are biblical creationists. I'd say that was more than a "handful". DO CREATIONISTS PUBLISH IN NOTABLE REFEREED JOURNALS? by David Buckna In his book The Monkey Business (1982) paleontologist Niles Eldredge wrote that no author who published in the Creation Research Society Quarterly "has contributed a single article to any reputable scientific journal" (p.83). Apparently Eldredge couldn't be bothered to glance at the Science Citatation Index or any other major science bibliographic source. Developmental biologist Willem J. Ouweneel, a Dutch creationist and CRSQ contributor, published a classic and widely cited paper on developmental anomalies in fruit flies ("Developmental genetics of homoeosis," Advances in Genetics, 16 [1976], 179-248). Herpetologist Wayne Friar, a frequent CRSQ contributor, publishes his work on turtle systematics and serology in such journals as Journal of Herpetology, Comparative Biochemistry and Physiology, Science, and Herpetologica. In their study of creationist publishing practices ("The Elusive Scientific Basis of Creation 'Science'", Quarterly Review of Biology ,60 (1985): 21-30), Eugenie Scott and Henry Cole surveyed the editors of 68 journals for the period from 1980-1983, looking for creationist submissions. Out of an estimated 135,000 submitted papers, Scott and Cole found only 18 that could be described "as advocating scientific creationism" (p.26). Scott and Cole were not looking for papers like the following: In 1983, the German creationist and microbiologist Siegfried Scherer published a critique of evolutionary theories of the origin of photosynthesis entitled "Basic Functional States in the Evolution of Light-driven Cyclic Electron Transport", Journal of Theoretical Biology ,104 [1983]: 289-299, one of the journals Scott and Cole surveyed. Only an editor who had a complete roster of European creationists, and the insight to follow the implications of Scherer's argument would have flagged the paper as "creationist". How many papers did Scott and Cole miss? Let's look at 1984, one year past the end of their survey. Would Scott and Cole have turned up "Enzymic Editing Mechanisms and the Origin of Biological Information Transfer", by the creationist biochemist Grant Lambert (Journal of Theoretical Biology, 107 [1984]:387-403)? Lambert argues that without editing enzymes, primitive DNA replication, transcription, and translation would have been swamped by extremely high error rates. But the editing enzymes are themselves produced by DNA. It's a brilliant argument for design. Lambert understandably counts on some subtlety and insight from his readers, however. Lambert doesn't "explicitly" wave his creationist banner, leaving the dilemma as "an unresolved problem in theoretical biology" (p.401). By Scott and Cole's criteria, such papers don't really count. By any other reasonable criteria, however, they do. Dr. D. Russell Humphreys, a physicist working for the prestigious Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque, New Mexico (who is involved with the laboratory's particle beam fusion project, concerning thermonuclear fusion energy research) is a board member of the Creation Research Society. He has about 30 published articles in mainstream technical journals from 1968 to the present.In the last eight years alot of his work has been classified, so there has been less of it in the open literature. His most recent unclassified publication is a multiple-author article in Review of Scientific Instruments, Vol. 63, Number 10, October 1992, pp. 5068-5071, "Comparison of experimental results and calculated detector responses for PBFAII thermal source experiments." I understand that a more recent unclassified article will be published in the near future. Here is just a sampling of some of his earlier articles: "Inertial confinement fusion with light ion beams," (Multiple-author) International Atomic Energy Agency, 13th International Conference on Plasma Physics and Controlled Nuclear Fusion Research, Washington D.C., 1-6 October 1990. "Progress toward a superconducting opening switch," (Principal author), Proceedings of 6th IEEE Pulsed Power Conference (Arlington, VA June 29 - July 1, 1987) pp. 279-282. "Rimfire: a six megavolt laser-triggered gas-filled switch for PBFA II," (Principal author),Proceedings of 5th IEEE Pulsed Power Conference (Arlington, VA June 10-12, 1985) pp. 262-2265. "Uranium logging with prompt fission neutrons," (Principal author) International Journal of Applied Radiation and Isotopes, Vol. 34, Number 1, 1983, pp. 261-268. "The 1/gamma velocity dependence of nucleon-nucleus optical potentials," (Only author) Nuclear Physics, Vol. A182, 1972, pp. 580-592. Creationists such as Humphreys have extensive publications in mainstream journals on non-creationist topics. As mentioned previously, the article by Scott & Cole was a search for articles openly espousing creationism, which is a different matter. Creationists who publish scientific research in mainstream journals have found that they can publish articles with data having creationist implications, but will not get articles with openly creationist conclusions published. When they attempt to do this, their articles are usually rejected. Those who are well-known to evolutionists as creationists have more difficulty even with articles which do not have obvious creationist implications. In the summer of 1985 Humphreys wrote to the journal Science pointing out that openly creationist articles are suppressed by most journals. He asked if Science had "a hidden policy of suppressing creationist letters." Christine Gilbert, the letters editor, replied and admitted, "It is true that we are not likely to publish creationist letters." This admission is particularly significant since Science's official letters policy is that they represent "the range of opinions received." eg. letters must be representative of part of the spectrum of opinions. Yet of all the opinions they receive, Science does not print the creationist ones. Humphrey's letter and Ms. Gilbert's reply are reprinted in the book, * Creation's Tiny Mystery, by physicist Robert V.Gentry (Earth Science Associates, Knoxville, Tennessee, 2nd edition, 1988.) On May 19,1992 Humphreys submitted his article ** "Compton scattering and the cosmic microwave background bumps" to the Scientific Correspondence section of the British journal Nature. The editorial staff knew Humphreys was a creationist and didn't want to publish it (even though the article did not contain any glaring creationist implications). The editorial staff didn't even want to send it through official peer review. Six months later Nature published an article by someone else on the same topic, having the same conclusions. Thus, most creationist researchers realize it is simply a waste of time to send journal editors openly creationist articles. To say that a "slight bias" exists on the part of journal editors would be an understatement. ** The Institute for Creation Research published an abridged version of Humphrey's article in their Impact series [No. 233, "Bumps in the Big Bang", November 1992]. Reference 5 of that article contains information about the Nature submission. In the 70's and early 80's physicist Robert Gentry had several articles with very significant creationist data published in mainstream journals (Science, Nature, Journal of Geophysical Research, etc.), but found he couldn't publish openly creationist conclusions. Gentry had discovered that granites contain microscopic coloration halos produced by the radioactive decay of primordial polonium. According to evolutionary theory, polonium halos should not be there. Some believe that the existence of polonium halos is scientific evidence that the Earth was created instantaneously. When Oak Ridge National Laboratories terminated Gentry's connection with them as a visiting professor (shortly after it became nationally known he is a creationist) the number of his articles slowed down, but he continues to publish. Russell Humphreys said in a 1993 interview:"I'm part of a fairly large scientific community in New Mexico, and a good number of these are creationists. Many don't actively belong to any creationist organization. Based on those proportions and knowing the membership of the Creation Research Society, it's probably a conservative estimate that there are in the US alone around 10,000 practicing scientists who are biblical creationists." ("Creation in the Physics Lab", Creation Ex Nihilo Magazine, Vol. 15, No. 3, pages 20-23) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * A companion video for Creation's Tiny Mystery entitled "Fingerprints of Creation", Video Cat. No. VFINCR (34 minutes) can be ordered at Additional information on Dr. D. Russell Humphreys: Dr. Humphreys was awarded his Ph.D. in physics from Louisiana State University in 1972, by which time he was a fully convinced creationist. For the next six years he worked in the High Voltage Laboratory of General Electric Company. Since 1979, he has worked for Sandia National Laboratories in nuclear physics, geophysics, pulsed power research, theoretical atomic and nuclear physics, and the Particle Beam Fusion Project. Dr. Humphreys is an adjunct professor of Geophysics and Astrophysics at the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego, a Board member of the Creation Research Society and is president of the Creation Science Fellowship of New Mexico. He is also the author of the book "Starlight and Time: Solving the Puzzle of Distant Starlight in a Young Universe", Master Books, 1994 (ISBN 0-89051-202-7) which details his white hole cosmology theory. Related article One other ICR Impact article by Humphreys can be viewed at: http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-242.htm The Earth's Magnetic Field is Young David Buckna

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