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From: dbd@panacea.phys.utk.edu (David DeLaney)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.scientology.ctl
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Control: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
Date: 12 Jan 1995 02:20:37 GMT
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Sorry, kids; please carry out your harassment campaign against the
a.r.s newsgroup by other means. Cancellation is bad enough; rmgrouping out
of spite is Not A Good Idea, thanks. And while you're there, hkk, tell us
please who the person at Netcom that's cancelling other people's
messages in a.r.s is, why don't ya?
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology He's dead, Jim
(alternatively:
alt.religion.scientology Discussion of the belief-system Scientology)
In article hkk@netcom writes:
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config;
Nonsense. One doesn't rmgroup active thriving groups simply because they
were "not discussed on alt.config", *especially* not several years *after*
they were newgrouped. You've got the wrong alt.* hierarchy here, methinks.
(3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion;
So what's your point? Are you maintaining that nobody can use a trademarked
word? Are you maintaining that nobody can attack the Scientology religion?
Again, I think you have quite the wrong alt.* hierarchy here...
(4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal practices.
Um, I think you're seriously confused; this is alt.religion.scientology,
not alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.scientologists . "Trade secret violations"?
For a *religion*? I think you have the wrong United States of America here...
Dave "And next I suppose they'll say they've copyrighted the word
'Scientology' - L. Ron would be furious!" DeLaney
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From: davidg@netcom.com (David Guntner)
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
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Organization: What a concept! :-)
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This was very likely a forgery. The From: line is botched, and a Sender:
line is present.
netcom:$ egrep alt.religion.scientology /usr/lib/news/active
alt.religion.scientology 0000027549 07508 y
Judging from 27,000+ articles received since it was created, this is not
a newly created group; it's been around a while. The reasons he gives
for requesting a rmgroup are most likely as bogus as the "address" he was
posting from.
The orignal article was:
> Xref: netcom.com control:923876
> Control: rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
> Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.lotto.players,alt.lotto.players.ctl
> Path: netcom.com!hkk
> From: hkk@netcom
> Subject: cmsg rmgroup alt.religion.scientology
> Message-ID:
> Followup-To: alt.config
> Sender: hkk@netcom.com (Helena Kobrin)
> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 22:52:23 GMT
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>
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config; (3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion; (4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal
> practices.
>
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
>
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
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From: twpierce@quads.uchicago.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: newgroup alt.religion.scientology
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This newgroup message for alt.religion.scientology is a
response to the Church of Scientology's recent rmgroup.
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From: caj@tower.stc.housing.washington.edu (Craig A. Johnston)
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In article , wrote:
> We request that you remove the alt.religion.scientology
> newsgroup from your site. The reasons for requesting its
> removal are: (1) It was started with a forged message; (2)
> not discussed on alt.config; (3) it has the name
> "scientology" in its title which is a trademark and is
> misleading, as a.r.s. is mainly used for flamers to attack
> the Scientology religion; (4) it has been and continues to be
> heavily abused with copyright and trade secret violations and
> serves no purpose other than condoning these illegal
> practices.
>
> Please confirm that you have removed this newsgroup from
> your system.
>
> Helena K. Kobrin
> Counsel for trademark
> and copyright owner
Get lost.
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From: smj@smudge.oro.net (Scott Jennings)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.scientology
Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.religion.scientology
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This is in response to an attempt to remove this very active
and time honored newsgroup.
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology L. Ron Hubbard's Church of Scientology
Or alternatively...
For your newsgroups file:
alt.religion.scientology He's dead, Jim
