Message #4758 - CULT_WATCH
Date : 29-Oct-90 12:20
From : Richard Phelps
To : David Rice
Subject : UFO/ROCK & ROLL LINK
Replies : #3376 <-
Hi, David, thought I'd offer some references on the UFO subject, which is
appropiate for this echo...most of the references are aimed for a
college-level audience, so I hope these will help informationally-wise in this
I'll note which are from a Christian viewpoint...I should note that there is
one group, C.A.U.S. (Citizens Against UFO Secrecy), that may have some ties
(according to an ex-Scientologist Christian friend of mine) to the Church of
Scientology; that group authored a book entitled WITH CLEAR INTENT, which
seemed to take a rather adversarial role towards the U.S. and British
governemnts; more so than most other works on UFO's, so be cautioned about
this one reference...if I can obtain harder info on C.A.U.S. in the future,
I'll let everyone on the echo know of it.
1. UFO's: Is Science Fiction Coming True?; the Spiritual Counterfeits Project
(SCP) Journal, August 1977, Vol. 1 No. 2 ... $3.00 copy (includes postage and
handling); order from SCP, P.O. Box 4308, Berkeley, CA 94704
This is perhaps the best Christian resource on the topic I've seen in the last
15 years; although it was printed in 1977, I've found the info to be just as
timely for today (see especially the section on page 17 on Brian Scott's
"automatic" drawings...sound familiar? Look at the popularization of "spirit
channeling" (read: spiritism and sorcery, per Deuteronomy ch. 18!). The folks
at SCP have done an excellent job documenting their information, and as one
can see, references on UFO's are quoted from Dr. Alan Hynek, and Dr. Jacques
Vallee, as examples.
2. Above Top Secret; by Timothy Good, c. 1988, published by Quill, 105 Madison
Avenue, N.Y., N.Y., 10016, ISBN 0-688-09202
A somewhat more academic treatment of world government cover-up of the UFO
phenomenom, with very detailed case histories, and much material obtained via
the Freedom of Information Act. I recommend this book more than the book WITH
CLEAR INTENT, since there seems to be better-supported documentation.
3. Dimensions; by Jacques Vallee; c. 1988, published by Contemporary Books,
Inc., 180 North Michigan Avenue, Chicago, Illinois 60601 ISBN 0-8092-4586-8.
Very scholarly, although somewhat leaning towards Jungian psychology. He
clearly establishes what, for a non-christian world-view, is the operative
mode of UFO's; that "they are extra-dimensional appartions, controlled by a
non-benevolent intelligence", that "pop" in and out of 3 dimensional space
(see the SCP Journal listed above, pg. 20-21, for a comparision of tyhis
phenomenom to the scenario described in the book FLATLAND.
I highly recommend Jacques Vallee's other works on UFO's, such as MESSENGERS
OF DECEPTION (but bear in mind his Jungian psychological bias, but note his
assertian that the UFO phenomenom is, in his opinion, a *conditioning*
process, which goal, he believes, is non-benevolent to the human race
Also recommended is Dr. Alan Hynek's books; I believe one is titled THE UFO
PHENOMENOM; A SCIENTIFIC EXAMINATION. Like Vallee, he approached the subject
from a objective, scientific, non-sensationalist view. Unfortuanately, the
same cannot be said for Phillip Klass, who seems forever bent on a rather
narrow scientific-materialistic view, and he seems to enjoy "debunking" even
the most well-documented "extradimensional" cases that Vallee and Hynek have
taken seriously. On the other hand, Whitley Strieber, a previously published
author of fictional occult/horror stories, has admitted to a fascination with
the "darker" spiritual side of things; to be fair, on a recent "Larry King
Live" show, he asserted that some UFO researchers had unfairly "pigeon-holed"
him as believing that his "alien" experiences were just that; aliens from
UFO's; Strieber said that he was not willing to go that far as to what it was
that he experienced; that he didn't know who or what it was that he
experienced (has anyone heard differently re: Strieber? I haven't had time to
read any of his material i depth).
4. In Advance of the Landing: Folk Concepts of Outer Space, by Douglas Curran,
c. 1985, published by Abbeville Press, Inc. 505 Park Avenue, New York 10022
A rather interesting look at the UFO sects in the U.S.; it does not attempt to
explain UFO's themselves, but rather examines the people who make up the
groups; included are photos and descriptions of various UFO groups.
5. Beyond the Four Dimensions, by Karl A. Brunstein,. c. 1979, published by
the Walker Publishing Co., Inc. ISBN 0-8027-0612-6
Again, a rather alternative outlook on the phenomenom of a possible linkage of
extradimensional forces and modern theories of physics. Although I don't
agree with most of the author's premises, it's interesting reading, since Dr.
Brunstein has credintials in Physics.
6. Excerpt from a book The Search for Extraterrastrial Intelligence (published
by the National Radio Astronomy Observatory, at P.O. Box 2, Green Bank, WV
24944-0002); the excerpt is entitled How Do We Reply?, by Dr. Gerrit L.
Vershuur, National Radio Astronomy Observatory; Dr. Verschuur advocates that
we contact "ET" by exploring alternative means, such as "trance induced
contact, automatic writing, personal experiences regarding contact, and the
UFO phenomenom..." as well as "the Jungian collective unconsciousness."
Although I don't agree with much of these approaches, his statement that "the
SETI experience has many of the hallmarks of the technological search for God.
The SETI experience has many of the hallmarks of a religious quest. There is a
parallel here, to the religious experience in which you make a commitment to
pursuing your path no matter where it leads. In our case, pursuing the search
for ETI, no matter where it leads, may lead you into interesting places of
self-discovery. So, why are you involved? Contact with ETI is not going to be
a personal thing. It will be collective and is going to effect the entire
human race. So why are you involved?" [quoted from Dr. Verschuur's work cited
above] leaves open the spiritual side to this UFO question...my personal
belief is that we are witnessing a spiritual phenomenom that is attempting to
counterfeit the order originally intended by God, as set forth in the Old and
New Testamnets. It is interesting to note that Lucifer has access to
space-time manipulation, as well as a large source of information, but in both
cases he is not infinite, as God is; in his attempt to decieve, he is not
above using any method or technique to distract man from the true God. The UFO
phenomenom, with its stories of contact with ET's that speak of "a new world
order and religion, of alternative realities, of high technology that, for
each generation that witnesses UFO's, is tantalizingly just beyond that
generation's understanding (as an example, the "airship" UFO's of the late
19th century, of a "we-are-your-ultimate-salvation theme," bespeaks of
something that a non-benevolent intelligence would seek to do to counterfeit
the order that God intended, in a last-ditch effort to bring many down to his
dark order (I'm speaking of Lucifer and hell), through methodologies that are
enticing and appealing to our ever-curious scientific-technical age.
I hope that the above references and comments prove helpful in future dialogue
on this echo, as a current interest in UFO's, ET's, the English "circle"
phenomenom, "new-age", and spritism seems to be on the increase.. I believe it
will be of vital importance to gain an orthodox, biblical perspective on these
matters, as I see our culture (and the recently opened Soviet-bloc countries)
looking for spiritual answers. As has already occured in the Eastern bloc
countries, they are getting the worst and the best of American values; the
pornographers, drug czars, and gun dealers, along with the "gab it and grab
it" health-and-wealth TV preachers (Copeland, Hagin, Price, Treat, Tilton,
etc), and the LDS, Moonies, and other uniquely American cults are making
inroads, along with Christian missionary groups that have had a proven track
record of integrity and honesty, which have started helping out the victims of
Chrnobyl, and the Romanian children's day-care centers, and passing out
Bibles. There is much interest in spiritual phenomenom in these countries,
what with the 70 year plus oppression that has for the most part lifted.
Well, enough for now; I need to sign off, but I hope that all can benefit from
the above references. I believe we are for some challanging times ahead, as
world events seem to be coinciding with those times that Jesus prohesied of.
* Origin: Saints Alive In Jesus / CfC # 27 206-277-8813 (8:7000/27)