Date: Tue Apr 27 1993 23:33:04 P_SKEPTIC - Date: 27 Apr 93 18:54:03 GMT +gt;BTW, on a TOTA

Date:   Tue Apr 27 1993  23:33:04
From:   Chris Rutkowski
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From: rutkows@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris Rutkowski)
Date: 27 Apr 93 18:54:03 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
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Newsgroups: alt.paranet.skeptic



>BTW, on a TOTALLY different subject, I have a couple questions about Carp.
>I have one of your issues here, and it's dated Jan. 1991 as far as I can tell.
>In it, you mention that the Carp case is getting active again, and talk about
>how you figured it to be baloney a while earlier.  Yet some of the researchers
>invovled (Oechsler comes to mind) say they didn't even GET the tape until after
>that date.  I'm trying to figure out if I'm confusing the date, they are
>confusing the date, or there was more than one Carp incident.    Thanks.

There was only one Carp "crash" as far as we can tell.  Information
about it was indeed distributed to selected researchers in late 1990
and early 1991.  Further information just kept coming, with more and
more detail and getting wackier and wackier.  I was one of the lucky
few who got the original "official" docs, the map, the aerial photo,
and, later, Polaroid pics and follow-up docs.  Some Ontario
investigators went to the site (in the middle of winter, no less) and
travelled the area looking for evidence and witnesses.  Nothing that
could confirm the event could be located.  Years later, others received
the video and went back to the site.  As seen on TV, a witness was
located, but there is nothing to suggest that she saw what was in the
video.  Yes, she said on-camera that the video was of her UFO, but her
testimony does differ, there is no time-frame or accurate location and
there was ample opportunity for her to "identify" the videoed object
with her sighting.

The videotape only went to a handful of people, as I understand it.  I
wasn't one of them.  But based on the previous documentation, despite
how "good" the video looks, it's likely a hoax.  I mean, the docs talk
about the "white brotherhood" and the "evils" of Red China, for gosh
sake!

One of the last things I received was a paragraph ranting about various
topics like the above.  I took the envelope to the RCMP, whose "hate
crime" division was interested.  It turns out the envelope was mailed
from the main post office on Parliament Hill, or thereabouts, in the
central Ottawa/Hull region.  In other words, "Gaurdian" mails his/her
stuff in Ottawa.  My guess: a UFO buff in the Ottawa area, or one who
has travelled to the area several times (because he/she knows the
Kanata military base and can get good maps of the area).

Next.

--
Chris Rutkowski - rutkows@ccu.umanitoba.ca
University of Manitoba - Winnipeg, Canada

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