Turns out they were a man size 9 not ladies size 9. The boots smell like wet dog when it rains its like having garbadage boots on my feet yucky. | Cost me $120.00 for these gross boots. DANA WARNER wouldnt give me a refund. | Ebay and paypal took her side cuz she lied to them. Even though i have spent over $50,000 on Ebay. So stay away from this Ebay seller. | Never buy anything from this Ebay scammer.